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Dabura vs MSSJ Kid Gohan
Topic Started: Dec 16 2011, 02:36 AM (3,452 Views)
Illustrious
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Who would win?

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Kid Gohan should wreck him.

Teen Gohan is much weaker than Kid Gohan, and he wasn't completely losing against Dabura, even with spit...
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Dec 16 2011, 02:39 AM
Kid Gohan should wreck him.

Teen Gohan is much weaker than Kid Gohan, and he wasn't completely losing against Dabura, even with spit...
Much weaker? I highly doubt his ki atrophied that much, I just think he got sloppy with his technique(s).
Edited by Illustrious, Dec 16 2011, 02:42 AM.
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Vegeta states he was far, far better as a kid. And is actually disgusted by Gohan's lack of power. As well as Goku agreeing that he really did slack off.

Ki atrophying with Gohan seems suggested IMO...
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Dec 16 2011, 02:45 AM
Vegeta states he was far, far better as a kid. And is actually disgusted by Gohan's lack of power. As well as Goku agreeing that he really did slack off.

Ki atrophying with Gohan seems suggested IMO...
Vegeta could be referring to his technique. I agree that he lost some power, but I doubt he got more than 5-10% weaker over the 7 year gap. You've got to remember that Dabura had the upper hand for most the fight, so he could potentially be rivaling Kid Gohan's MSSJ power.
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I have Dabura stronger than SPC cell. Dabura stomps.

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Gohan's technique was never an issue. When he transformed into SSJ2, how could he have displayed his technique? By scrunching his face up better when he was a kid?

As soon as Gohan transformed into SSJ2, Vegeta balked, and couldn't believe how much weaker Gohan was.
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Dec 16 2011, 02:52 AM
Gohan's technique was never an issue. When he transformed into SSJ2, how could he have displayed his technique? By scrunching his face up better when he was a kid?

As soon as Gohan transformed into SSJ2, Vegeta balked, and couldn't believe how much weaker Gohan was.
I think Gohan had an anger boost when he transformed at the Cell Games, but didn't when he did so in front of Kibito. So that would explain the power drop.
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Well if you think Gohan was a SSJ2 against Dabura that gets a bit tricky. I don't agree with that, so our debate will have to end.

Either way, rage boosted or not, Gohan is weaker.
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Dec 16 2011, 02:57 AM
Well if you think Gohan was a SSJ2 against Dabura that gets a bit tricky. I don't agree with that, so our debate will have to end.

Either way, rage boosted or not, Gohan is weaker.
I don't think he was an SSJ2 against Dabura, I actually believe Dabura is around Perfect Cell's powered up level (the one he fought Goku with). I just believe that he didn't lose that much power over the 7 year gap.
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Well lets see dabura = perfect cell roughly and mssj kid gohan < cell so i would have to assume dabura > mssj kid gohan. Now if you said ssj2 kid gohan thats different.
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I'd say Dabura simply because I think he has way more power, skill, speed and pretty much everything.
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Gohan wins after a long fight. I believe Chibi Gohan = Teen Gohan > Dabra and that he was only losing to Dabra due to his rustiness.
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Dec 16 2011, 01:12 PM
Gohan wins after a long fight. I believe Chibi Gohan = Teen Gohan > Dabra and that he was only losing to Dabra due to his rustiness.
Thing is, Gohan couldn't match Perfect Cell (whilst suppressed) as a kid, and it's implied that Dabura's equal to that form of Cell. So, where do you place Dabura?
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Illustrious
Dec 16 2011, 03:06 PM
Thing is, Gohan couldn't match Perfect Cell (whilst suppressed) as a kid, and it's implied that Dabura's equal to that form of Cell. So, where do you place Dabura?
He was casually dodging Cell's every hit until he raised his speed.

All we know is Dabra was originally implied to be equal to some state of Cell, and then stated to be far above him. We don't know which state though.

For all we know Son was talking about Second Form Cell or Initial Perfect Cell.
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